Machina Fortress lv7 = 2500/1600
"You can discard Machine-Type monster(s) whose total Levels equal 8 or more to Special Summon this card from your hand or Graveyard." This part means that you can summon this monster almost at any point of the game, just like Grapha, however you probably will have to spend two or more cards to bring him from the grave (-1). While Grapha means an instant +1 in your game. The best part of the effect is the hand or grave thing, the surprise factor is amazing and it is something that grapha don't have. If grapha is in the grave and DW is on the field, is clear what is going to happen. The surprise factor is present in Master hyperion too, However Hyperion can only be summon it once by his own effect and It must be from the hand. So, you can not abuse of him like Fortress or Grapha.
"When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, select and destroy 1 card your opponent controls." A free destruction effect is always great, however this one is not actually free. You have to die in battle, which means you probably will waste the effect on destroy the other battle monster. The advantage here is that Fortress has surprise factor and a easy special summon ability, which means that you can pontentially destroy 1 card on the field without your opponent be prepare for that at any point of the game. Master hyperion has a better destruction effect, because you only need to remove a fairy, but also because you can do it again the next turn. The problem here is that hyperion can not come back from the grave easily, so if you waste hyperion, you probably won't be able to destroy anything until you get the next hyperion. This problem becomes bigger if we think about Grapha, in fact you can't summon grapha without waste his destruction effect, of course you always have something to destroy... or not?
"When this face-up card you control is targeted by an opponent's Effect Monster's effect, look at your opponent's hand and discard 1 card from their hand." This is something exclusive of Fortress, is a backup effect in case your opponent is trying to get rid of Fortress easily. Great effect but ironically is bad against Dark world.
His 1600 def means that it can be destroyed by tengu. At this point, fortress could be an old fashion boss monster.
Master Hyperion lv8= 2700/2100
"You can Special Summon this card from your hand by removing from play 1 "The Agent" monster in your hand, field, or Graveyard." Totally easy to summon, and the surprise factor is huge, but it can not come back from the grave like Fortress or grapha. When you summon this card, it create any mathematical change on the game like Fortress (-1) or grapha (+1). However the free destruction effect can create an instant +1 for you. His attack is enough to make it a game changer card.
"Once per turn, you can remove from play 1 LIGHT Fairy-Type monster from your Graveyard to select 1 card on the field, and destroy it." Everybody read this effects and think on DAD, and it is true, is just like DAD, however it can only destroy one each turn, and it can not be splashed on any deck like DAD.
Grapha, Dragon lord of Dark World lv8= 2700/1800
"You can Special Summon this card (from your Graveyard) by returning 1 face-up "Dark World" monster you control to the hand, except "Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World"." Totally predictable summon, also, you expose one card of your hand, so your opponent can see what is coming next. In the future, this will become the easiest deck to beat. The main advantage of Grapha is that it is a (+1) 3000 atk floater, something probably unbeatable on battle on this game... ever. This is something that Hyperion or Fortress can not score.
"If this card is discarded to the Graveyard by a card effect: Target 1 card your opponent controls; destroy that target, then, if this card was discarded from your hand to your Graveyard by an opponent's card effect, look at 1 random card in your opponent's hand, then, if it was a monster, you can Special Summon it to your side of the field." Yes, a free destruction effect was never so easy on this game. However, it also means that you have to use it before put grapha on the field. What if your opponent don't compromise any card on the field? Are you willing to waste Grapha effect? Of course you are, because right now the deck has enough +1 to make those kinds of sacrifice, but it won't be capable of do it on the future, and it will be his major weakness.
Leyvaten was pretty easy to summon to. Banish a Dragunity with a equip and you got a 2600 beater or use Aklys's effect.
ReplyDeleteYeah, Leyvaten was designed like the rest of the boss monsters, however it is not good enough to be competitive.
ReplyDeleteHe was actually pretty competitive when he first came out in Asia since he made a easy Trident Dragon in a format where Battle Fader was rarely used and Gorz and Trag were limited. However, with Effect Veiler, Maxx "C", he can't be searched easily, etc. he sort of died lol.
ReplyDeleteI guess Master Hyperion has that problem to (he can't be searched, doesn't deal with Gorz well unless in multiples, etc.), but Venus and Earth easily compensate for that + Hyperion has a DAD like effect.
I think The problem is not hyperion. What is wrong is the deck itself, the engine is so intensive that you get two hiperon easily.
ReplyDeletei think all 3 monsters deal with their deck´s playstyle.
ReplyDeletefortress deals with cotinuous +1 through gadgets, and along with Solidarity, it can get rid of both Grapha and Hyperion quite easily.
grapha is a +1 when hitting the grave, and when summoned from grave. but after that, its a vanilla 3000 atack, that can be removed quite easily by Dprison and BHT, or even Malefic Cyber End Dragon (for those who run malefics).
hyperion is not searchable using a good engine (i would never run Sanctuary in the Sky), but both venus and earth "mills" your deck, along with cards from the sky and duality. as an atack boost, hyperion could hit the field when gachi-gachi is face up and full of xyz materials, so it will be a 3100 atk monster that can generate +1 every turn (depending of the number of fairies in grave).
after all what i said, the fact is that it doesnt depend of boss monsters, but of the whole deck.
the most vulnerable is hyperion agents, since both Veiler and CMaxx stop its big plays.
DW is al so affected by those cards, specially when running 3 TGU.
but machina gadgets are only affected by Veiler, resulting in a +1 after all (because u still have 6 cards in ur first turn and ur opponent drop a Veiler, so its a +1 anyways).
another problem is rai-oh. the only deck that can get rid of it without minusing itself is DW (dealings discarding Grapha, or TGU summoning Leviathan Dragon)
my conclussion is what i said above. its up to the deck, not to the boss monsters.
sorry about the long comment.
Having three copies of a boss monster is not a problem. But if it can generate OTK easily, the game is not fun.
ReplyDeleteLimiter Removal / Cards from the sky, duality / Card destruction, Morphing jar
These are good examples of cards that can create OTK on each deck